Thursday, October 02, 2008

Liveblogging the VP debate right now...

...and it's becoming apparent why she's so much better in debates than in answering direct questions during interviews. It's quite easy really...during debates she doesn't even attempt to answer them. Instead, she has a mental list of talking points and she simply starts talking about them at random.

This question about climate change is the first time she's directly addressed the question without immediately deviating. She LIED about it, but that's a different issue.

I'm already 3 beers in. This may be a long night.

Update: Did she just try and make the "I have gay friends" distinction?

Update: Fuck you Biden. I'm so damned sick of people not being able to just say "I don't give a rat's ass whether gay people get married." Marriage is not a religious term. It's civil. Live with it. You too Palin. And stop lying. You know damned well that when you see two ladies with short haircuts walking together at the mall, you snicker.

Update: Talking points, talking points, talking points.

Update: "A white flag of surrender"...classy. She's going to piss him off pretty soon.

Update: Hammer the war.

Update: Whoa...don't talk about who's ass we're gonna kick. Remember, John said "We don't do that". Palin's using McCain's cliff's notes. Stinking Corpse, "Naivete", "Dangerous".

Update: Seriously, you can't fuck with Biden on foreign policy. He knows his shit.

Update: "Blame game". Apparently, you must learn how to change things without looking back at what you're changing. "Past is prologue"...awesome. Is Bush still President? I haven't seen him much lately. Weird.

Update: Wouldn't it be appropriate for her to NOT smile or smirk when talking about nuclear weapons killing people? Seriously, does someone have a bong?

Update: Why won't anyone give some points? There ARE differences between Biden and Obama. And there would be differences in a Biden administration. One of the first things I learned during advocacy classes is that you have to give some points. It leads to higher credibility.

Update: "Wasilla Main Street"...good line.

Update: Are we there yet?

Update: "There you go again"...hahahahahahahah. That is so fuckin' lame. Hey, if it worked for Reagan, it's gotta work again. Too bad she hasn't got the timing or likability that Reagan had.

Update: For the love of all that is holy...STOP WINKING!!!

Update: Wouldn't this be better if they were both up on a dunk tank? I'm just throwing that out there.

Update: THANK YOU for that quip about the Vice President being part of the executive branch.

Update: Whoa. That was fairly endearing. Biden doesn't seem like an actor. Palin ignored it. I'm sure there will be quite a few conservative a-holes making fun of him for it tomorrow.

Update: Did she just say "Tolerence"? Maverick, Mavericks, Mavericky....

Update: Biden's calling her out on it...sweet. Obama wouldn't do that.

UPdate: "Closing Statement", thank Jesus we're almost done.

Update: Question judgment...not motive. I've got to work on that, actually.

Update: It's YOU, Sarah.....I'ts Y.O.U. Not "Ya". That's so fake. This is a VP debate, not a church luncheon.

Update: And she has to end with "Don't let the media fool you into thinking that my stupidity on TV and YouTube was really stupidity." That was a really nice spiel at the end...quite rehearsed.

I hate her more than I did before. But just a little bit. Not much to it really. Neither one fucked up...surprisingly. As my wife said "unremarkable".

My prediction however? McCain will get a little bounce...guaranteed.

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7 comments:

S said...

On the same-sex marriage thing, I'm taking heart. Yes, he like lots of liberal politicians can't bring themselves to say, "same-sex marriage is ok." But when he was talking about what rights should be available to same-sex couples, just talking, he referred to same-sex marriage. So he hasn't gotten to the point of giving up the opposition to the use of the technical term "marriage", but he does think of those committed relationships as marriage. It's progress.

Jason said...

I'm not surprised anymore when they give a half-assed, watered down response to the gay marriage thing. I'm content with just a no-more-damage approach.

I agree with you and your wife that the whole thing was sickening but unremarkable. I'm not convinced, though, that McCain will get a boost. I think she put off as many people as she attracted with her saccharin, phony "folksy" talk.

jason said...

Maybe I should clarify that I am a gay man, and that's why I am content with just a no-more-damage approach.

Anonymous said...

First off, did anyone hear and see the Republican woman governor from Hawaii? She was sharp. Why the hell couldn't he pick someone like her?
2nd= someone on the Republican side said she used great debate techniques- right she doesn't know shit so changing the subject is great. She admitted up front she wasn't going to answer the questions. I kept thinking she was flipping thru her note cards- I for Israel, A for Afghanistan (forgot the AC card for Achilles heel- didn't know what the hell that was,had several E cards for energy. (Missed the E card for education). I remember my old college days reguritating my notes-that is what she was doing.
3rd- I thought Gwen Ifel did a shitty job. I would like to ask the questions. They ask the same stupid questions each debate and then they don't follow up with why didn't you answer the F-------?. Katie Couric did a better job.
4th- Tina Fey will be great on Sat night live winkin' and talkin' folksy. She has taken the letter G out of the alphabet. The president is not supposed to be "folksy, for God's sake." Can someone tell me why being a little intelligent isn't a plus for a presidential candidate? I don't care if Biden is boring- I want substance. If we elect that ticket (McCain and Pahlin), our standing in the world will be a done deal. People gave us a pass on George Bush but if we do it again, we will be on our way to being like the Roman Empire. (extinct)
And lastly, I have lost total respect for Tom Brochaw. I think he is losing it. He has talked with many world leaders and he thinks she did a great job. Oh, my God.

Anonymous said...

Why is there even a question on same sex marriage? This country is in a grave situation and we are worried about who is sleeping with each other. Frankly, I don't give a rats ass. We should worry about even having a country. Common sense tells you they should have the same rights as the rest of us- I think it has something to do with the constitution.

Jay said...

I personally thought Ifel did a shitty job too. My reason, however, isn't with the questions. It's about the stupid time limits. Let them debate for God's sake. If they take a half an hour going back and forth on energy...let 'em do it. I don't want her cutting people off mid sentence and moving on when they aren't finished decking each other.

Goon said...

Good point Jay. Let them give their answers. I didn't personally care for the format.

I think the problem is that the moderater is a pro Obama supporter so I think she was trying to be a even handed as she could. I didn't think she did too bad but I would have like to have more than one moderator for this debate...

I actually like the YouTube debates and this would have been a better format.